A conversation with Rich Mullins

EDITOR’S NOTE: This conversation was published in the June 1997 edition of CCM as part of a special edition on AIDS, Christian artists and the church. As it happens, Rich Mullins told this story during a concert I attended in Knoxville, Tennessee. It is reprinted with permission.

The concepts of biblical parables come to life in everyday conversations. The following dialogue is often recounted in concert by Rich Mullins, who befriended a man at a steak house while hiking along the Appalachian Trial. As it was getting dark, the man, who we’ll call John, offered Rich a ride back to his campsite. As the truck pulled out of town, Rich’s new friend spoke up.

John: I probably oughta tell you that I’m gay.

Rich: I probably oughta tell that I’m a Christian.

John: Well do you want to get out of the truck?

Rich: No. It’s still getting dark, and (my camp) is still four miles up the road.

John: But I thought Christians hated gays.

Rich: That’s really weird. My understanding of what Christ told us was that Christians were to love. I didn’t know there were a lot of parameters set on that.

John: I thought God hated gays.


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Buzz is a married father of two, managing editor for print/online at The (Maryville, TN) Daily Times and pastors Green Meadow United Methodist Church in Alcoa, TN. He is a 1981 graduate of East Tennessee State University, where he is a member of the Mass Communications Department Hall of Fame.


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